MK802 Notebook!

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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby strider_mt2k » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:28 am

Well it looks like I'm done.

It appears that both my MK802+ and my Bionic Lapdock have been zapped by ESD and no longer function.

My MK802+ is dead in the water and the Bionic Lapdock doesn't recognize HDMI input any more.
I've tested both with various devices and monitors and both are dead.

The MK802III I bought to set up for my in-laws is still going strong in its 24-hour burn-in testing though, so you can bet I'm getting one of those for myself next.

It was fun while it lasted folks.
I knew there was a possibility of this occurring when I read about the MK802 and the MK802+ not featuring any ESD protection, but didn't think it would happen to ME. :(
Luckily none of this stuff was very expensive nor was I relying on it for anything other than exploration and entertainment.

I wish you the best of luck in all of your endeavors.
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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby joshuahandrich » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:10 pm

This is sad to hear. I hope you have better luck with your mk802 iii. I'm sure those in this thread would love to see you around though. I have a spare lapdock that I could ship you cheap, check your PM's.
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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby joshuahandrich » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:44 pm

Harlequin_Felis wrote:So I'm making the plunge and trying this out. Got myself a Bionic lapdock (not as good as an Atrix I hear, but the only one I could find) and about to order one of the 802's.
I'm not quick on the uptake when it comes to putting together tech though. Could somebody give me a Cliffs Notes version of what I'm doing to get an MK802 II/III to work with the thing? Especially the step involving removing the red power wire? Is that the wire in a USB cable, or inside the lapdock itself?
Sorry if I'm asking what seem like stupid questions, or asking people to dumb down perfectly visible info already in the thread for me, but I'll never learn otherwise, right?

Cheers in advance.


All you need in a micro HDMI to mini HDMI adapter (e.g.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-HDMI-sock ... 0985788755) and a 5 pin mini USB to micro USB cable (e.g. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suitable-USB-2- ... 0985552524) this is assuming you bought an mk802 or mk802+. This has been detailed in a previous post just as simply, so please use the search function or read through the thread more carefully before reposting.

If you purchase an mk802 ii or iii, you will need an HDMI type a (full size) to micro HDMI adapter instead of the micro to mini, and a micro USB extension cable.

Those who have done this with an mk802 ii or iii, please advise on the setup you use. I know it is possible, but every configuration I can think of needs at least 2-3 HDMI adapters chained together. Has anyone been able to fine a short 5pin micro USB extension cable or a female micro HDMI to female HDMI adapter or cable. Thanks.
I can only find the micro USB extension shipped from china. http://www.ebay.com/itm/5pin-USB-Cable- ... 1131285160


For either, no cutting of any wires is required, nor are you required to open the lapdock.
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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby Mehhh » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:56 am

strider_mt2k wrote:Well it looks like I'm done.

It appears that both my MK802+ and my Bionic Lapdock have been zapped by ESD and no longer function.


You should part it out. :P

joshuahandrich wrote:Has anyone been able to fine a short 5pin micro USB extension cable or a female micro HDMI to female HDMI adapter or cable.


Motorola Micro USB female -> right angle Micro USB male www.amazon.com/dp/B001EJHH20
Micro HDMI female to HDMI female adapter http://www.ebay.com/itm/140894652482
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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby buzz86us » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:43 pm

MysticWhiteDragon wrote:@vplester

Then check out this "Raspberry Pi" lapdock site at http://rpidock.blogspot.com/2012/05/raspberry-pi-and-motorola-lapdock.html as a basis.

Below are eBay links to the required components that are used in the MK802 II connection that I used.

HDMI Adapter
Micro HDMI socket D type Female to HDMI 1.4 A type Female adapter convertor
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160884802942



2 Cables
USB 2.0 A female to Micro USB B female adapter cable
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270798436083 <- cut red wire in this cable

New USB 2.0 A Male M to Male Extension Cable Cord
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120797993091


The above 2 cords should plug together into the Micro USB port next to the Micro HDMI on the flip portion of the lapdock.
Next take the powered USB port on the MK802 II, and plug that into one of the full size USB ports on the back of the lapdock.

Note: The HDMI adapter will need to be filed down on one side otherwise you will not be able to cables to both the Micro USB and Micro HDMI cables at the same time.

This method works perfect for me! Also, notice that there is no overscan, so even the linux distros you can download will be entirely viewable on lapdock, unlike most TV/monitors that overscan it.

so i'd need 3 cables for everything and the dock micro usb connector only powers the device?
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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby GerryAttrick » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:09 pm

It sounds like we need a "STICKY" detailing the various plug cable combinations for a lapdock and a TV(HDMI & non HDMI connections) ?

It probably needs pix of the cables attached so that people can be sure that the cable they are buying is actually what is required along with warning re the pinouts on (or lack thereof) on the USB plugs.

This seems to me to be the biggest question that people have and also the one that seems to have a number of options on what goes with what and what needs "trimming" to fit!
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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby buzz86us » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:30 pm

I agree with gerry
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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby buzz86us » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:15 pm

MysticWhiteDragon wrote:@vplester

Then check out this "Raspberry Pi" lapdock site at http://rpidock.blogspot.com/2012/05/raspberry-pi-and-motorola-lapdock.html as a basis.

Below are eBay links to the required components that are used in the MK802 II connection that I used.

HDMI Adapter
Micro HDMI socket D type Female to HDMI 1.4 A type Female adapter convertor
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160884802942



2 Cables
USB 2.0 A female to Micro USB B female adapter cable
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270798436083 <- cut red wire in this cable

New USB 2.0 A Male M to Male Extension Cable Cord
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120797993091


The above 2 cords should plug together into the Micro USB port next to the Micro HDMI on the flip portion of the lapdock.
Next take the powered USB port on the MK802 II, and plug that into one of the full size USB ports on the back of the lapdock.

Note: The HDMI adapter will need to be filed down on one side otherwise you will not be able to cables to both the Micro USB and Micro HDMI cables at the same time.

This method works perfect for me! Also, notice that there is no overscan, so even the linux distros you can download will be entirely viewable on lapdock, unlike most TV/monitors that overscan it.

finally read the raspberry pi method which IMHO makes more sense to me in that the easier/cheaper (dolla store) to obtain usb male to male cable gets the red wire sliced and hooked to the micro usb female to usb female then to the fullsize usb port of the MK802II then the fullsize port of the lapdock provides the power to the MK802II..
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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby tdude51 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:59 am

Hi all,

I've come across a lapdock and I'm considering getting the MK802IIIS to connect to it. I was hoping I could get some input to see if a setup I have in mind would work and if I would need to cut or trim any cables or adapters. I understand that it's a bit different for each revision, so I wanted to detail everything here carefully.

The MK802 IIIS is a bit different than previous revisions. Here's a look at the ports:
Image

As you can see, it has a the normal HDMI Type A Male, a USB Host Type A Female, a Mini USB Female (for charging) and a Micro USB Female for USB OTG (similar to a USB OTG port on your cellphone, requires adapter).

The MK802 IIIS comes bundled with the following cables:
Image

So we have a mini USB cable for charging in the Mini USB Female port, and a USB OTG cable for the Micro USB port.

In order to connect to the lapdock and MK802 IIIs, we need 3 things: video, usb host, and power. Here's what I hope to do:

Video: Micro HDMI Female to HDMI Female adapter, then plug the MK802 IIIS into the HDMI Female end and the lapdock micro HDMI tip goes into the micro HDMI female end directly.
Power: The package includes a mini usb to USB cable, so the mini USB end goes into the MK802 IIIS and the full size USB goes to one of the normal USB ports in the back of the lapdock for power.
USB Host: Micro USB extension cable, the male end of the cable plugs into the female USB OTG port in the MK802 IIIs and the female end of the cable plugs into the male micro USB tip on the lapdock.

So I have a few questions:
1) Would I need to cut the power in the micro usb extension cable? I saw a few people that mentioned this, but I'm not sure if I would need to do it or why. I'm assuming it could damage the MK802 IIIS if power is sent to the micro usb OTG port from the lapdock. Is this true, or do I not even have to worry about it?
2) Would there be enough room to plug in the micro usb extension cable next to the Micro HDMI Female to HDMI Female adapter? If not, can one of the adapters be shaved? Can the port be moved in the lapdock? Or should I look into a different solution?

Thanks so much for your help. If anything is unclear let me know and I'll do my best to explain.
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Re: MK802 Notebook!

Postby Harlequin_Felis » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:38 am

joshuahandrich wrote:All you need in a micro HDMI to mini HDMI adapter (e.g.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-HDMI-sock ... 0985788755) and a 5 pin mini USB to micro USB cable (e.g. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suitable-USB-2- ... 0985552524) this is assuming you bought an mk802 or mk802+. This has been detailed in a previous post just as simply, so please use the search function or read through the thread more carefully before reposting.

If you purchase an mk802 ii or iii, you will need an HDMI type a (full size) to micro HDMI adapter instead of the micro to mini, and a micro USB extension cable.

Those who have done this with an mk802 ii or iii, please advise on the setup you use. I know it is possible, but every configuration I can think of needs at least 2-3 HDMI adapters chained together. Has anyone been able to fine a short 5pin micro USB extension cable or a female micro HDMI to female HDMI adapter or cable. Thanks.
I can only find the micro USB extension shipped from china. http://www.ebay.com/itm/5pin-USB-Cable- ... 1131285160


For either, no cutting of any wires is required, nor are you required to open the lapdock.


Thanks, Joshua. I know it was mentioned earlier in the thread but people went on to different things so quickly, I wasn't entirely sure if I'd missed something or not. Had the choice of risk looking like an idiot by asking the obvious; or being an idiot by just going ahead without making sure ;)
Should be ordering myself a iii/iiiS at weeks' end, and I'll post my (hopefully happy) results once I track down the extra cables.
Thank you again ^^
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